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December 07, 2011

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Rob

"Nascent James Dysons aren't going to suddenly appear from their garages, wielding new technologies to export."

Strangely, I think you're expressing an even more romantic view of innovation and entrepreneurship than George Osborne is here. We don't really need genius-inventors-in-garages to give us new technology - there's no shortage of the stuff as it is, and forming businesses to take advantage of it is actually a dull lot of work that needs to be done. Entrepreneurs don't need to be Randian supermen, they just need to have a reasonably good idea of what people will pay for and how it can be made. There's more than enough money to be made in exploiting the stuff invented in the last 20 years, even if we never invented anything else. You could even argue that there's a boom in tech right now despite the bewilderment and despair elsewhere: when people are writing stuff like this, you know something's up. (Does the exuberance there qualify as a good sign, or is anything that looks like optimism just a delusion?)

Even the UK is seeing a mini tech boom; pay rates for software developers are going up relatively quickly, there's less of a shortage of funding for tech startups than there is for most other businesses. Betting that the future is going to involve more technology is still pretty safe.

We are still at the point where a greater supply of 'techies' would translate directly into greater employment and growth. We could happily employ thousands more than we do. Of course, this can be used as a right-wing critique of the education system: our problem, they'd say, is that people are doing useless humanities degrees when they should be learning how an iPhone works, and we need to unleash economic incentives to prod them in the right direction. I'm sympathetic to the goal of more techies, but I'm dubious about the notion that future expected ability to pay back student loans-that-aren't-really-loans is the best way of achieving it. The "march of the makers" is a great slogan but it may depend on some rather un-capitalist ideas of what is being made, for whom, and for what ends.

The question, I guess, is whether or not capitalism can figure out how to exploit the remaining growth opportunities. If it can't, then it's effectively dead and will be replaced, one way or another. But the challenge is as great or greater for any system that aspires to replace it, which is why declaring the death of capitalism isn't actually particularly useful.

Dick Pountain

If, of course, one believes that the real goal of Thatcherism was to weaken the power of organised labour

Which of course one does. One of the hard problems is to accept that conspiracy theories are sometimes true.

CharlieMcxMenamin

This post is just a tiny bit wonderful, even by your own high standards. Thank you.

I agree that Schumpeter is a better guide to the uncertainty of the future - but I'm not sure that Austrian economics, as opposed to mainstream neo-classical economics, ever had that much policy bite. The rhetoric and mood music of course, was distinctly Austrian.

Will Davies

Rob, with apologies for sounding like a cultural sociologist, but the romantic representation of entrepreneurship was deliberate. My point is that the faith that is being placed in entrepreneurs, the 'makers' and the private sector generally seems to rest on some very unrealistic ideas of how wealth is produced. The image of the geek in his/her shed is the sort of New Economy equivalent of the rugged individualism of Austrian economists. The fact that it doesn't correspond to very much reality is precisely my point. I could have put inverted commas around it, but I probably do too much of that already.

Thanks, Charlie. True, it's difficult to see what Austrian economics offers the applied policy-maker, other than to sit back and trust that things will be OK. This was something that Hayek (and Schumpeter, incidentally) were worried about: that their vision of progress and freedom was so abstract, so un-technical that it ran the risk of appearing non-existent. It didn't solve real world, here-and-now problems, and therefore risked being trampled on. Hence neo-classical economics partly plugged that gap, under 'actually existing neoliberalism'.

IanC

A great post.

I think we have to assume that Osborne really means it: if he doesn't, the energy required to be that cynical, ironic and futile would surely exhaust him in days. What keeps the neoliberal dream alive in the Tories, when experience shows it is a busted flush? I think the socio-economic isolation of the neoliberal elites must help. So does the mental path-dependency that keeps us attached to hopes and myths in the face of disillusioning experience. But surely one big factor - and it plays a part in the persistent EU-phobia of the Tories - is a kind of dream of the UK becoming more like the USA. So far all we have managed to do is try to consume on tick like Americans, but the dream seems to persist among Tory neoliberals , as it did in the 80s, that we can have what they imagine to be the USA's can-do start-up Randian culture of 'enterprise'.

Rob

"My point is that the faith that is being placed in entrepreneurs, the 'makers' and the private sector generally seems to rest on some very unrealistic ideas of how wealth is produced. The image of the geek in his/her shed is the sort of New Economy equivalent of the rugged individualism of Austrian economists. The fact that it doesn't correspond to very much reality is precisely my point. I could have put inverted commas around it, but I probably do too much of that already."

Yes, but in that case you're attacking a figment of someone else's ideology, which has no bearing on how actual markets work. You move from saying "capitalism doesn't work like this" (viz. geeks in sheds emerging blinking into the light, clutching the code for the next Google) to "capitalism doesn't work at all". Proving that the geeks-in-sheds theory is bollocks proves very little at all - you need to prove that there's not enough money to be made from genuine, run-of-the-mill new technology innovations to sustain a capitalist system. You might be right, but your views on geeks-in-sheds are as irrelevant as Osborne's.

Kristian

Good stuff.
Next time someone start going on about entrepreneurs I'll go get a blanket for their legs.

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